So if everyone says Immutability is good, that means mutating objects is bad, right?
Here is my answer to this topic, it is contrarian and may also be contentious, but bear in mind its not the only answer, its just my own point of view.
Well, I’m glad you asked!
What is wrong in mutating objects?
In fact programmers have been mutating objects for er… as long as there has been objects to mutate. 50+ years of application development in other words.
And why complicate things? When you have object
cat and it dies, do you really need a second
cat to track the change? Most people would just say
cat.isDead = true and be done with it.
Doesn’t (mutating objects) make things simple?
YES! .. Of course it does!
What if I have a new News object that has to be updated? … How do I achieve in this case? Delete the store & recreate it? Isn’t adding an object to the array a less expensive operation?
Well, you can go the traditional approach and update the
News object, so your in-memory representation of that object changes (and the view displayed to the user, or so one would hope)…
You can try the sexy FP/Immutability approach and add your changes to the
News object to an array tracking every historical change so you can then iterate through the array and figure out what the correct state representation should be (phew!).
I am trying to learn what’s right here. Please do enlighten me 🙂
Fashions come and go buddy. There are many ways to skin a cat.
I am sorry that you have to bear the confusion of a constantly changing set of programming paradigms. But hey, WELCOME TO THE CLUB!!
Now a couple of important points to remember with regards to Immutability, and you’ll get these thrown at you with the feverish intensity that only naivety can muster.
1) Immutability is awesome for avoiding race conditions in multi-threaded environments.
Multi-threaded environments (like C++, Java and C#) are guilty of the practice of locking objects when more than one thread wants to change them. This is bad for performance, but better than the alternative of data corruption. And yet not as good as making everything immutable (Lord praise Haskell!).
(Having said that, there is an advantage to using pure functions in web workers, which is that you’ll have no expectations about fiddling with objects on the main thread.)
2) Immutability can (somehow) avoid race conditions in the state of your app.
And here is the real crux of the matter, most (React) developers will tell you that Immutability and FP can somehow work this magic that allows the state of your application to become predictable.
Of course this doesn’t mean that you can avoid race conditions in the database, to pull that one off you’d have to coordinate all users in all browsers, and for that you’d need a back-end push technology like WebSockets (more on this below) that will broadcast changes to everyone running the app.
Why? Because React is special.. and component state is managed via an asynchronous chain of events that you have no control over and rely on you remembering not to mutate state directly. This has been handled amazingly from a PR perspective, as the React hype has turned a shortcoming into a sexy fashion. Fashion aside, I’d rather see immutability for what it is, ie a tool to plug a gap when your choice of framework does not handle state intuitively.
3) Race conditions are categorically bad.
Well, they might be if you are using React. But they are rare if you pick up a different framework.
Besides, you normally have far bigger problems to deal with… Problems like dependency hell. Like a bloated code-base. Like your CSS not getting loaded. Like a slow build process or being stuck to a monolithic back-end that makes iterating almost impossible. Like inexperienced devs not understanding whats going on and making a mess of things.
You know. Reality. But hey, who cares about that?
4) Immutability makes use of Reference Types to reduce the performance impact of tracking every state change.
Because seriously, if you are going to copy stuff every time your state changes, you better make sure you are smart about it.
5) Immutability allows you to UNDO stuff.
Because er.. this is the number one feature your project manager is going to ask for, right?
6) Immutable state has lots of cool potential in combination with WebSockets
Last but not least, the accumulation of state deltas makes a pretty compelling case in combination with WebSockets, which allows for an easy consumption of state as a flow of immutable events…
Once the penny drops on this concept (state being a flow of events — rather than a crude set of records representing the latest view), the immutable world becomes a magical place to inhabit. A land of event-sourced wonder and possibility that transcends time itself. And when done right this can definitely make real-time apps easier to accomplish, you just broadcast the flow of events to everyone interested so they can build their own representation of the present and write back their own changes into the communal flow.
But at some point you wake up and realise that all that wonder and magic do not come for free. Unlike your eager colleagues, your stakeholders (yea, the people who pay you) care little about fashion and a lot about the money they pay to build a product they can sell. And the bottom line is that its harder to write immutable code and easier to break it, plus there is little point having an immutable front-end if you don’t have a back-end to support it. When (and if!) you finally convince your stakeholders that you should publish and consume events via a push techology like WebSockets, you find out what a pain it is to scale in production.
Now for some advice, should you choose to accept it.
Now, if you are fortunate enough to be able to make choices in your work, then try and use your wisdom (or not) and do what’s right by the person who is paying you. You can base this on your experience, on your gut, or whats going on around you (admittedly if everyone is using React/Redux then there a valid argument that it will be easier to find a resource to continue your work).. Alternatively, you can try either Resume Driven Development or Hype Driven Development approaches. They might be more your sort of thing.
In short, the thing to be said for immutability is that it will make you fashionable with your peers, at least until the next craze comes around, by which point you’ll be glad to move on.
And the reply!
Hello Steven, Yes. I had all these doubts when I considered immutable.js and redux. But, your answer is amazing! It adds lot of value and thanks for addressing every single point that I had doubts on. It’s so much more clear/better now even after working for months on immutable objects. – bozzmob